In this clip from Julian Dorey Podcast, Julian and I debate Snowden vs. Assange: heroes or enemies of the state. If you like this, click subscribe, like and share with a friend. DEBATING Snowden vs. Assange: Heroes or Enemies of the State?,Snowden,Assange,Heroes or Enemies of the State,Heroes,Enemies,CIA,intelligence operations,Andrew Bustamante podcast,Shawn Ryan,Jocko Willink,David Goggins,Jason Hanson,Tim Kennedy,Joe Rogan,Black Rifle Coffee,Lex Fridman,Julian Dorey,hero vs traitor,political asylum,CIA